A Podcast channel on success and failure in process and organizational change.

It is Hosted by Jeroen Gietema and Dion Kotteman, authors of “The Project Saboteur”. The world is changing rapidly in directions that are hard to predict. For organisations to survive, it is crucial to respond in an efficient and effective way to these change dynamics. We are puzzled by the inadequate response of organisations to this challenge.Talking to thought leaders like yourself we will try to get more understanding and share these insights with you.


Episode 9: Interview with Yuri Bobbert “Zero Trust requires another way of thinking”

Today Yuri Bobbert is our guest. Prof. Dr. Yuri Bobbert is Chief Information Security Officer at ON2IT, a global cybersecurity player, and professor at Antwerp Management School (AMS). He is the former Group CISO of NN Group & UWV. Through his years of experience as an entrepreneur and manager within companies, he balances between practice and science.

“Equipping professionals with the right craftmanship has far more effect than implementing more processes”

Yuri Bobbert

Focus on the run and the economic benefit of security


Episode 8: Interview with Jennifer Vessels “The Silicon Valley approach”

Today Jennifer Vessels is our guest. Jennifer is an inspirational Speaker, Facilitator, Consultant and Chief Innovator for the Executive Growth Alliance. She founded Next Step, a global consulting firm that takes companies to the Next Step of growth – from startup to global transformation for Adobe, Cisco, Goodwill, Google +

Get Out of the Box and think differently

Jennifer Vessels

“Bring the employees into the process of change”


Episode 7: Interview with Antonio Nieto-Rodriguez, author of the “Harvard Business Review Project Management Handbook: How to Launch, Lead, and Sponsor Successful Projects

Dion and Jeroen interviewing Antonio Nieto-Rodriguez. Antonio is a thought leader, author, practitioner, and professor in project and strategy implementation. He is the creator of concepts such as the Project Economy or the Project Manifesto. His research and global impact in modern management been recognized by Thinkers50. Former Chairman of the Project Management Institute, he is the co-founder of the Strategy Implementation Institute and the global movement Brightline. He is a member of Marshall Goldsmith 100 coaches.

The World’s Champion in Project Management

Antonio Nieto-Rodriguez

“Inspire People Through Purpose”


Episode 6: Interview with Juli Geske-Peer, author of “5 Senses for Success: Strategies to Thrive in Any Arena

Dion and Jeroen interviewing Juli Geske-Peer. Juli is founder, president and principal consultant, coach and trainer for Peer Performance Solutions. She has 20 years’ experience in leading office operations, client management and intelligence functions, much of this within consulting firms serving Fortune 500 and other companies.

“Try to understand the other first”

Juli Geske-Peer

Peer Performance solutions


Episode 5: Interview with Shannon Wallis, author of “We the Change”

Dion and Jeroen interviewing Shannon Wallis. Shannon is founder of Cascade Leadership and a transformational change professional with more than 25 years of experience in Fortune 500 companies.

“Anything is possible, whether walking 500 miles across Spain or leading an organization through transformational change”

Shannon Wallis


Episode 4: Interview with John Deel “One of the world’s foremost CHANGE experts”

Dion and Jeroen interviewing John Deel. John is a respected leader of enterprise-wide change programs around the globe – he believes “people are the game” and this is his lane.

“people are the game”

John Deel


Episode 3: Interview with Carla Johnson the author of “RE: Think innovation”

Dion and Jeroen interviewing Carla Johnson. Carla is a world-renowned storyteller, an entertaining speaker, and a prolific author. Carla is consistently named one of the top influencers in her field.

“Put change always in the context of your brand purpose”

Carla Johson 


Episode 2: Infinite Flow and the responsiveness of organisations towards Change Dynamics

Dion and Jeroen interviewing Jim Johnson founder and chairman of The Standish Group.

“Change Happens:
“…… run with it …. or have it run over you”

Jim Johson 


Episode 1: The responsiveness of organisations towards Change Dynamics

Dion and Jeroen interviewing Henny Portman a well known author, book reviewer and international speaker on approaching change in a traditional ways like MoP, MSP, PRINCE2, P3O as well as the agile ways like AgilePM, AgileSHIFT and SAFe.

“Keep it simple ….. Do it Fast”

Henny Portman’s blog

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